Ron Garber Ministries  

                     WOMEN PREACHERS

"A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet."(1Tim.2:11,12)This was the instructions given by Paul to the church. That is very plain and he meant exactly what he said. He said, "I want you to know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is NOT ACCORDING TO MAN. For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ."  (Gal.1:11,12) The preachers who are teaching that it is alright for women to preach went to school and were taught by men.

Paul was not speaking from his own mind, for he said, "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or a spiritual, let him recognize that the things I write to you are THE LORD'S COMMANDMENT."  (1Cor.14:37) Are you spiritual?? Then you will recognize this is the Lord's commandment.

We must understand that God has a order and we must follow the order that He ordained. "Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ." (1 Cor.11:3) Man was created in the image of God; the woman was taken out of man. Therefore the man is - "...the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man." (1Cor.11:7) That is why the woman should cover her head and the man should not.

God gave instructions to Adam, not the woman. "The LORD God commanded the man, saying, 'From every tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat'" (Gen.2:16,17) Adam told the woman what God had said but she didn't listen to her head and left the covering of the man and listen to the serpent. She being the weaker vessel (1Pet.3:7), fell into transgression, because she left the headship of the man. She was not content to be the help mate of the man but desired to be "like a god." (Gen.3:5) "For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived fell into transgression." Satan knew she was the weaker vessel and could be deceived if he could get her not to listen to her head. The woman then lead the man into transgression. "But women will be saved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with discretion." (1Tim.2:13-15) This does not mean a woman must have children to be saved. It is saying, having children is one of the purposes of a woman and not preaching the gospel. "Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, TEACHING what is good (to other woman and their children), so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands to love their children, to be sensible, pure, take care of their home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored." (Ti.2:3-5) If Eve had been subject to her own husband she would not have fell into transgression and if she had not taken authority over the Adam to teach him, she would not have lead him astray.

When the woman leaves the place where God has placed her, she is out of the order of God. She removes herself from the covering of the man and is easily deceived by Satan. And when she tries to teach, she being deceived, will deceive the man who listen to her.

Men distort the word to justify women preaching. One way is by saying that when Paul told the Corinthians that women were not permitted to speak, it was only for that church. But he also told Timothy to teach the same thing. And 2 Timothy 3:15 says, "All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction for training in righteousness; so the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." All Scripture means what Paul instructed the Corinthians could also be used to instruct the Galatians, the Ephesians, and the Thessalonians. And it says it is profitable for teaching and correction and I am using the Scripture to teach and to correct the false teaching of men.

If God had intended women to preach, Jesus would have appointed a woman as one of His disciples. There is no evidence that women were preachers in the first century church. It wasn't until around the early twentieth century that women began to preach. It took 1900 years for woman to distort the word, with the permission of man, so that they could preach. I know there will be men who say I am a false prophet. But this is what the apostle Paul, our beloved brother, who was set in the defense of the gospel, taught. (Phil.1:7) It is also the same gospel that I teach and that I am set in the defense of the same faith.

A elder or pastor had to meet the qualification to be ordained in the church. One qualification was that He had to be the husband on one wife.

I know that men will distort other Scriptures in order to justify their teaching and try to prove me wrong. As it is written: "Which the untaught and the unstable distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction." (2Pet.3:16)

Ron

Comments - Questions -         and Answers 

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I realize that this subject will not set well with many but it is the word of God. I challenge anyone to give Scriptural proof that women are permitted to preach or teach or to exercise authority over men.

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...when the Samaritan woman went into the city and was telling the people about Jesus, she was ordained her to preach. -Jeff M. missionary

Jesus told her to go get her husband - you call that being ordainto preach the gospel?? She was a sinner. -Ron 

God ordains sinners. -Jeff

That is not worthy of an answer. -Ron

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"...Christ is the head of the woman now." -David M.

The word states that the man is the head of the woman (1Cor.11:3) and no one has the authorithy to change the word which was inspired by God. (2Tim.3:16)  -Ron

"Keep preaching it brother. I believe in you." -Eddie M.

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 Ron….you wanted scripture to back up what Jan said. I noticed he hasn’t gotten back to you yet, so I thought I’d join this conversation and provide that for you. You said he had no scriptural proof that there were women apostles, prophets, and leaders of churches, in the Old or New Testaments….so here you go:

OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETESSES:

Deborah, a prophetess and Judge, leading all of Israel: Judg 4:4-5 “Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.” NIV

Huldah, prophetess: 2 Kings 22:14 + 2 Chr 34:22

Miriam, prophetess, co-leader of Israel with Moses & Aaron: Exodus (e.g. Ex 15:20) & Numbers, and God said himself that he sent Miriam as a leader: Mic 6:4 “I brought you up out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. I sent Moses to lead you, also Aaron and Miriam.”

Sarai’s name was changed by God, to Sarah—this was a highly significant name-change—it has the same meaning as Prince/Ruler of the People—both she and Abraham were given this charge at the same time—together they were to be “the father of many nations” (as the two are ONE, as God stated from the beginning—and the term “Father” includes the term “mother”—same concept as you men being the “Bride of Christ” every bit as much as us women being “Sons of God” ). Later, God even commanded Abraham to OBEY Sarah—only most translations water the word down to say “listen to” her…if you’re an honest scholar, however, you can get out your concordance and see that the word is translated “hearken” or “obey” (much stronger than just “listen to”) everywhere else:
Gen 21:12-13 “But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called.” NKJV

NEW TESTAMENT:

Junia was a woman, noted as an apostle (and an outstanding one at that), by Paul: Rom 16:7: “Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.” KJV

Acts 18:24-26…Priscilla and Aquilla take Apollos aside to “explain the word of God more adequately to him…” It is a well-known fact that at the time of this writing, whenever a couple was mentioned, the more prominent one (in the line of work or subject matter) was listed first—Priscilla is here listed ahead of Aquilla, which shows she was the more notable teacher. Furthermore, if women weren’t ever to teach men, she would have never been praised here as having done so, or there would have been a disclaimer as to why she did (if it wasn’t generally “allowed”).

Acts 2:17 “…..your sons AND DAUGHTERS will prophesy…”

1 Cor 4:31 “…for you can ALL prophesy….” (not just the men….)

And what is prophecy? SPEAKING to the CHURCH in order that the CHURCH can be edified! (1 Cor 14:5; 14:31; 14:39; etc.) You CANNOT prophesy unless you SPEAK to the church! The Bible does not contradict itself—it cannot be telling women forevermore to “BE SILENT” in church and not teach, etc., when in other places it encourages women to do so.
You cannot take one scripture and create a doctrine if it doesn’t also line up with the rest of scripture!

But wait, there’s more!! …Phoebe in Romans 16:1 is listed as a “servant of the church in Cenchrea…” The word for “servant” there is diakonos and everywhere else in the N.T. it is translated as “minister” or “deacon” – that is, everywhere else where it refers to a MAN! Funny how they translated this as “servant” in the case of a woman. It’s like the translators must have thought, “this just cannot be…this is a woman, and women cannot be ministers, leaders, deacons in the church….we must make this say something else…..”

You know Ron, there is much more proof I could provide for you, but I suspect that in this case you are a man to whom the following applies:

“Give men what proof you will, but seldom do they find more than what it suits them to find. If what is said agrees with their preconceived notions, well; if not, they reject it.” -Deb